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HARNETT COUNTY BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
County Administration Building
102 East Front Street, Lillington, NC
October 14, 2013 6:30 PM
PUBLIC HEARING
Board Members Present: Scott Tripp, Chairman; Rick Foster, Vice Chairman; Mary Jane
Bartlett, Gunnar Henderson and Alternate Robert Doberstein. Alternate Don Harrop was present
for standby purposes. Planning Staff Present: Landon Chandler, Planner II, Matt Talbott,
Planner I; Randy Baker, Senior Zoning Inspector and Teresa Byrd, Planner I and Recording
Secretary.
Chairman Scott Tripp gave the Invocation and Pledge of Allegiance.
All witnesses were sworn in.
Conditional Use
1. BA- CU- 29 -13. D & Q Motor Sports, LLC/ Bruce, Jeffrey. Motorcycle Repair Shop in
an RA -30 Zoning District; Black River Township; PIN # 0682 -58- 5160.000; NC Hwy 55 W.
Matt Talbott gave the site analysis and Jeffrey Bruce represented the application. Chairman
Scott Tripp asked if the applicant was only asking for a motorcycle business and Matt Talbott
stated yes. Rick Foster asked if the use regulation would apply if conditional use was granted
and Matt Talbott stated yes. Chairman Scott Tripp asked if automotive would be permitted and
Landon Chandler stated it could, unless there is a condition placed to limit to ATV or motorcycle
repair. Chairman Scott Tripp asked if they have to classify under certain conditions and Landon
Chandler stated the impact is the same. Gunnar Henderson asked if the site parcel would have to
be separated and Matt Talbott stated yes. Chairman Scott Tripp then asked if he could submit
the application into the record and Jeffrey Bruce stated yes. Chairman Scott Tripp asked what he
was asking of the board and Jeffrey Bruce stated to expand his business. Chairman Scott Tripp
asked how it would impact the surrounding area and Jeffrey Bruce stated it would gain
employment and it would look better. Chairman Scott Tripp asked if he had any additional
information and Mr. Bruce stated he just wanted to expand his business. Chairman Scott Tripp
asked where his business was located now and Mr. Bruce stated downtown Angier. Chairman
Tripp asked why he chose this particular area and Mr. Bruce stated he lived there. Chairman
Tripp asked if he was aware of the hoops he would have to jump through, as far as buffering,
fencing, pavement expenses, if approved and Mr. Bruce stated yes. Gunnar Henderson asked if
it was a vacant lot and Mr. Bruce stated yes. Gunnar Henderson asked if there was a gas
company up the street and Mr. Bruce stated yes. Mary Jane Bartlett asked what the prior use of
the property was and Mr. Bruce stated a cabinet shop that burnt down. Mrs. Bartlett asked if he
had spoken with any neighbors and Mr. Bruce stated yes. Mary Jane Bartlett asked if he had a
site plan and Mr. Bruce state yes. Mrs. Bartlett asked what size was the building going to be and
Mr. Bruce stated 4,000 square feet. Mrs. Bartlett asked if there would be any retail sales out of
that building and Mr. Bruce stated no. Mrs. Bartlett asked if it would be a metal structure and
Mr. Bruce stated it was going to be a steel building. Mrs. Bartlett asked if it would just be small
engine repair, no automobiles and Mr. Bruce stated yes. Chairman Scott Tripp asked how long
he had been at his current location and Mr. Bruce stated he has owned for six years, but worked
for ten years. Rick Foster then clarified there would be no automobile repair and Mr. Bruce yes,
he did not want that. Rick Foster asked his hours of operation and Mr. Bruce stated Monday
through Friday 10 -7, Saturday 8 -5 and closed on Sundays. Rick Foster asked if he would be ok
with a condition of no operating during the night and Mr. Bruce stated that was fine. Rick Foster
asked how he would contain the oil or chemicals on site and Mr. Bruce stated oil drums with
catch traps, separate containers for anit -freeze and through Noble Oil Service. Robert
Doberstein asked the number of employees he would have and Mr. Bruce stated 2 to 3 with a
total of 5. Robert Doberstein asked about the noise and Mr. Bruce stated he would keep the
noise down.
Max Henries came forth with some questions and stated he lived on the adjoining property. Mr.
Henries asked what the construction of the building would be and Chairman Scott Tripp stated
metal. Mr. Henries asked if there would be a privacy fence put in and Chairman Tripp stated yes
as well as buffering. Mr. Henries asked if there would be a requirement for a turning lane and
Chairman Tripp stated they would have to get a driveway permit and NC DOT would tell them if
there needs to be a turning lane. Mr. Henries then stated his concerns about noise and stated he
had not spoken with Mr. Bruce, but wanted to be a good neighbor. Chairman Scott Tripp stated
he has twelve months to activate his conditional use permit. Chairman Tripp asked if there was
anything the board could do to alleviate his concerns and Mr. Henries stated he wants him to
hold the noise down, that when it was a motorcycle track they would ride all weekend and that
was his biggest concern. Rick Foster asked staff to address the buffering requirements and Matt
Talbott read what would be required of this business as far as buffering.
Chairman Scott Tripp closed the public hearing and had board discussions. Chairman Scott
Tripp then reopened the hearing and had the applicant to come back to the podium. Chairman
Tripp asked what he would be doing to alleviate the noise and Mr. Bruce stated a privacy fence
and buffering. Mr. Bruce stated he would talk with him and see what he would like to see.
Chairman Scott Tripp asked if he would be riding the motorcycles and Mr. Bruce stated the
street bikes they would be riding. Mary Jane Bartlett asked the location of the building, if he
would have one big door on back and Mr. Bruce stated yes. Mary Jane Bartlett asked if the door
would be located on right side and open out to the left and Mr. Bruce stated yes with parking in
front and left. Mr. Bruce stated he was required 17 to 19 parking spaces. Chairman Scott Tripp
asked about the right -of -way and Mr. Bruce stated he did not know about the right of way, but
would be leaving it there. Mr. Bruce stated he thought it was his anyway.
Chairman Scott Tripp once again closed the public hearing to have board discussions. Rick
Foster stated he thought it was a good use for the property and there was a propane co across the
road. Mr. Foster felt it would improve the lot. Chairman Scott Tripp agreed and stated there was
a business on the property before. Chairman Tripp stated they would have to go through the
commercial site plan review process and will have to meet the ordinance. Chairman Tripp stated
he has rules to play by and felt it was a good use for the property. Mary Jane Bartlett stated she
would like to see the condition that the hours of operation are 8:00 a.m. until 7:00 p.m. or 8:00
a.m. until 8:00 p.m. Monday through Saturday and Rick Foster, Chairman Tripp agreed.
Chairman Tripp stated to make sure they limit to small engine and motorcycle repair. Rick
Foster stated ATV and motorcycle repair. Chairman Tripp stated that cars are a little intrusive,
but he could keep this locked up and it will never be seen.
The checklist was completed and Rick Foster made a motion to approve the request with the
conditions that the hours of operation be from 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. Monday through Saturday;
limit to motorcycle and ATV repair, with no automobiles or trucks. Robert Doberstein seconded
the motion and there was a unanimous vote to approve.
2. BA- CU- 30 -13. Kidd, Thomas B / Kidd's Place. Pistol Range in an RA -30 Zoning
District; Buckhorn Township; Pin # 0625 -18- 7283.000; NC Hwy 42. Landon Chandler gave the
site analysis and Thomas Kidd represented the application. Gunnar Henderson stated he was
friends with Mr. Kidd, but it would have no bearing on his decision. Chairman Scott Tripp asked
for him to describe his relationship with Mr. Kidd and Gunnar Henderson stated they were
friends. Chairman Scott Tripp then asked if there was anyone who objects to Mr. Henderson
remaining on the board, during this case and there was none. Rick Foster then disclosed two
prior contacts with Mr. Kidd. Mr. Foster stated that because of the location of the site, that he
and Mr. Doberstein went to Mr. Kidd's property, but had no material discussions. Mr. Foster
stated he had served on a committee with Mr. Kidd for the county on a firearms ordinance.
Chairman Scott Tripp then asked if anyone had any issues with Mr. Foster remaining on case and
there was none. Chairman Scott Tripp asked if this was approved as a skeet shooting range and
Landon Chandler stated yes, a recreational facility. Chairman Tripp asked how long ago was it
approved and Landon Chandler stated two to three years ago. Chairman Tripp asked if it was an
expansion and Landon Chandler stated no, this was for an outdoor shooting range. Chairman
Tripp asked if this was for pistol and no rifle and Landon Chandler stated correct. Robert
Doberstein stated he thought it would be indoor and Landon Chandler stated it was covered, but
not completely enclosed. Rick Foster asked if there was specification on how close range can be
from property lines and Landon Chandler stated 300 feet. Chairman Scott Tripp asked if there
had been any complaints on the previous conditional use and Randy Baker stated no.
Chairman Scott Tripp asked if he could submit the application into the record and Thomas Kidd
stated yes. Chairman Tripp asked what he was asking of this board and Mr. Kidd stated he
wanted to put a pistol pit on his farm and drop it down about 20 feet. Chairman Tripp asked how
it would impact the surrounding property and Thomas Kidd stated it should not and that he
wanted to keep it in the ground, with a five foot privacy fence and Leland Cypress trees.
Chairman Tripp asked what caliber of gun he would have and Mr. Kidd stated 45 calibers.
Chairman Tripp asked him to elaborate on the containment of all rounds and Thomas Kidd stated
he would have berms twenty feet tall, 12 to 15 thick, and 100 foot at bottom. Chairman Tripp
asked if he would follow NRA recommendations and Mr. Kidd stated probably double that.
Chairman Tripp asked what the structures were made of and Mr. Kidd stated 6 x6, 4 feet stalls in
building. Chairman Tripp asked if there would be range safety officers and Mr. Kidd stated yes.
Chairman Tripp asked if he would be hosting any events and Mr. Kidd stated no. Chairman
Tripp asked how many people would be in the stalls and Mr. Kidd stated 7 to 8 at a time.
Chairman Tripp asked if anyone would be in pit and Mr. Kidd stated no. Chairman Tripp asked
his hours of operation and Mr. Kidd stated 9:00 a.m. -9:00 p.m., one night a week. Chairman
Scott Tripp asked how much of his land would he use for the pistol pit and Mr. Kidd state one
acre. Chairman Scott Tripp asked how wide was his property and Thomas Kidd stated 400 feet.
Rick Foster asked if he would be operating on Sundays and Thomas Kidd stated yes, that he
holds tournaments for sporting clays, not pistols. Gunnar Henderson asked if he would be under
ground with pistol pit and Mr. Kidd stated yes.
Joe Miller, Harnett County Commissioner came forth in favor and stated he sat on the committee
with Mr. Foster and Mr. Kidd. Mr. Miller stated they had been working with Mr. Baker and Mr.
Locklear to address issues in the UDO. Mr. Miller stated that he felt it was a good thing.
Kirsten Bunt came forth with questions and stated she lived around the corner from the site. Her
concerns were with the pistol and hearing the shots. Ms. Bunt stated the level of noise that
would come from the pistols. Chairman Scott Tripp asked how close she was and Ms. Bunt
stated approximately one and half miles from this site.
Chairman Scott Tripp called Thomas Kidd back to the podium. Chairman Tripp stated that noise
was always an issue and what he would do about the noise. Thomas Kidd stated he was not a big
pistol shooter, but the pistol pit would be confined and in the ground. Mr. Kidd went on to say
there would be buffering in place and this would contain the noise.
Jason Anderson came forth in opposition and stated he lived on Hidden Valley Drive, which was
not even a mile. Mr. Anderson had concerns of the loudness of handguns and stated his wife was
concerned because he had PTSD.
Chairman Scott Tripp closed the public hearing and had board discussions. Chairman Tripp
stated that the work being done on ordinance sounds great and there will be rules to abide by.
Chairman Tripp stated that if there are people not abiding by those rules, it needs to be brought
to the county's attention. Chairman Tripp stated it was a pit with baffling above the range, with
no projectiles going outside of the big berm. Chairman Tripp stated he was in favor of the
application and felt Mr. Kidd was doing the best for the county, as well as for the interest of his
neighbors. Rick Foster agreed and stated it was a NRA certified range and there would be tight
control. Mr. Foster felt this range should be a model for the county ordinance and he had the
sporting clay range for a couple of years with good testimony and great track record. Mr. Foster
felt it was a good use for the property and there was no opposition. Gunnar Henderson stated the
main concern he heard was the noise. Mr. Henderson stated the pit would be in the ground,
covered and the sounds would be muffled. Mr. Henderson felt the noise would be well
contained. Mary Jane Bartlett stated she was not a gun person and she felt that you would hear
more noise with a shotgun than a pistol. Mrs. Bartlett stated that she would not want that noise
in her area and have her community impacted, but she was not involved in that hobby. Mrs.
Bartlett stated she was not against it and there was no opposition. Rick Foster stated Mrs.
Bartlett brought up a good point, but the impact was already there with the sporting clay.
Chairman Tripp stated the fact being limited to the caliber of the handgun, that a rifle would be
much louder, if aloud. Chairman Tripp stated the conditions should be the ones the county
touched on like limit to handguns, hours of operation, limited to dusk in the past, it be one acre,
buffering.
The checklist was completed and Rick Foster made a motion to approve the request with the
conditions that the range be limited to 45 caliber or less on the handguns; that it be a static
shooting range with no moving targets, hours of operation be from 9:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. 7 days
a week, max number of shooting stations be limited to eight, one acre of the 43 acre tract be
allocated to the activity of the pistol pit. Robert Doberstein seconded the motion and there was a
unanimous vote to approve.
The minutes for the September 2013 meeting were presented for approval. Robert Doberstein
made a motion to approve the minutes as written. Gunnar Henderson seconded the motion and
there was a unanimous vote.
Landon Chandler gave some legislative updates as well as introduced a new Board of
Adjustment Alternate Member Richard Cruickshank.
There was no old business and the meeting was adjourned at 8:15 p.m.
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